Spot violent expiry and manipulation/Insider Buying and selling

However earlier than Nifty crossed the second prime, the 23500CE already crossed the earlier prime at 11:12 with no different triggers: no information, no underlying Nifty motion and many others

Choices transfer earlier than spot. With the best way choices premium was shifting within the first hour, it was evident we have been going above 23500. However yeah I didn’t count on 23800. However that’s primarily due to dominos impact of brief protecting 23500ce then 23600ce then 23700ce and eventually 23800ce.

There isn’t a rip-off. Fno is a zero sum sport. Someone has to lose for someone to realize. Huge gamers all the time attempt to lure the smaller ones.

Choices transfer earlier than spot.

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@BB789 If I had $1B to take a position I too would take up by-product place upfront of my massive buy. May this be known as manipulation when it’s simply regular buying and selling?

there are such a lot of rumors of insider buying and selling the information after the tarrifs

rumors

It’s regular accountable others when markets don’t transfer as per your evaluation.

I too misplaced after we opened 1000 factors down final Monday. Who’s to be blamed? I’m solely answerable for taking such in a single day publicity.

Why do Choices transfer earlier than spot? Until you’re planning to purchase choices earlier than shifting the index? How is that this completely different from pump and dump?

I don’t suppose at present;s expiry is manipulated , at present was a trending day , i too had 23400CE which was in water within the morning session however maintain it , from final 2 days market was in a slender vary ,

Why do Choices transfer earlier than spot?

It all the time strikes earlier than spot. Spot performs catching up with Fno.I can all the time inform which approach spot is shifting in subsequent 1 min. However that’s of no use as a result of choices have already priced that in a min again.In idea, choices transfer primarily based on underlying. However virtually 9 out of 10 instances, choices transfer first after which the spot.

Now that is simply my commentary primarily based on my market expertise.

Discover how each the primary and the second prime in CE didn’t kind a brand new excessive earlier than NIFTY in my picture. The 3m timeline clearly reveals they kind the highest on the similar time(Yellow arrow). The third breakout candle in CE(pink arrow) overtook the second prime nicely earlier than NIFTY overtook the second prime(Purple arrow) – to be precise, at the least 3 minutes earlier than, i.e., At the very least 3 minutes earlier than shopping for NIFTY, somebody(Or many insiders) knew that this candle received’t retrace or reverse and that they’re going to make new highs.

Usually, Choices comply with the underlying(like the primary and second prime) not in any other case. If it clearly strikes in any other case, then it’s manipulation.

Usually, Choices comply with the underlying(like the primary and second prime) not in any other case. If it clearly strikes in any other case, then it’s manipulation.

That’s not true. You might be sticking to idea an excessive amount of and never digging deeper market dynamics. Choices can transfer earlier than spot as a result of –

Choices are ahead wanting
Choices worth in expectations
Choices have course (CE/PE)

And basically their pricing mechanism has this variable parameter known as IV which might worth in any upcoming information, occasion or technical setup. That isn’t manipulation.

For instance, a court docket order is due that may make or break the inventory. The worth of the inventory is stagnant. Nonetheless simply earlier than the court docket order IV will enhance and each CE and PE will enhance because of the anticipated transfer. That isn’t manipulation.

P.S. Right this moment was a traditional cup-n-handle or flag breaking apart on the upside. Anybody doing technical evaluation would have anticipated an upside (at your pink arrow) reflecting in CE worth / CE IV earlier than the precise transfer.

Hope this helps.

So is your opinion. If you happen to actually suppose choices transfer first, a 1m lead, it ought to’ve proven within the charts. However aside from this outlier, choices comply with the spot. When you’ve got repeated pattern charts proving your idea, do present it.

Right here on this case, it was a 3m lead and it wasn’t simply that the underlying transfer priced in – it was getting ready for an enormous upmove after that. So shopping for had a terrific reward threat ratio.